How important is Notes/Domino version adoption?
Fri 28 Dec 2018, 10:25 AMTweet
by Ben Langhinrichs
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What has been said:
1130.1. John McCann (12/28/2018 10:19 AM)
I think the overall number only affects the cost of support resources the company spend, especially on rediscovery of know problems and ability to EOL.
After that, I don't think the overall number matters as much as the percentages of the five categories: Innovators, Early adopters, Early majority, Late majority, and Laggards. This article talks about consumers, but I think it applies to software: Consumer Adoption Categories
A large percentage of influential early adopters can actually drive additional sales. Most software companies make extra efforts to get the newest technology in the hands of influencers.
Then, you get IBM who has decided not to release Domino Community Server Version 10 (the free development version). It is only available in V9. (Confirmed with Passport Advantage Support as of 2018-12-28). Is someone trying to hold it back to affect the IBM-HCL transaction for Domino?
1130.2. Doug Finner (12/28/2018 10:40 AM)
The companies I worked for were medical device design/build firms. Switching versions was a royal pain because of the validation and training effort we had to complete. We couldn't just run a couple of quick tests and call it a day. We had to generate a ton of documentation. Since our apps worked on version
1130.3. Andrew (12/28/2018 10:55 AM)
Our location we have moved off to cloud however Domino with SSJS/xpage as REST remains running for legacy applications hooked to a Angular or React front end.
Our devs are eager to leverage the node module but patiently waiting for IBM to release:
* Container developer edition of Domino / node to work with locally
* The node module to be delivered for real not beta.
1130.4. John Head (12/28/2018 11:06 AM)
Companies who don’t upgrade are the ones who have probably left for mail and kept a locked domino server to maintain apps they haven’t moved to a different platform or archived.
Adoption matters. It tells who how the company views the product and platform.
1130.5. Ben Langhinrichs (12/28/2018 11:54 AM)
All interesting points. I do think there is a difference between the companies who use Notes apps extensively and those who have mostly moved to a Domino web presence. In the former case, stability and "if it ain't broke" thinking may slow upgrades as Doug suggests. In the latter case, interaction with modern web technologies may drive upgrades as Andrew suggests. As for John Head's point, I think that is true for some companies, but not all. We have companies who use Notes very extensively for applications, and migrating to a new Notes version doesn't buy them as much as a new Domino version might. A few of these are wavering with the possibility of using the iPad for true Notes apps, which might be a big enough reason to upgrade.
1130.6. Dave Navarre (12/28/2018 12:39 PM)
I worked with a guy who refused to update because each new version had new bugs. The fact that it eliminated bugs in the current version and included enhancements went right over his head. That was an odd place to work.
It's doubtful that we'll ever upgrade to 10, as we're exiting Domino.
1130.7. Richard Schwartz (12/28/2018 10:31 PM)
Some new version adoption is actually a pretty meaningless thing with respect to the product itself. They don't need it, don't want to bother with it, but their hand is forced. Security auditors are the strongest counter to the inertial forces that Doug described. If you need to have a squeaky-clean audit to satisfy customers/regulators then it doesn't matter that you know the unpatched bugs in your EOL'ed version don't affect you. It's a red flag, period. If you don't do the upgrade, you're going to be dragged into one meeting after another to give your excuses and try to convince skeptical and/or clueless people to make an exception for you. And you're not going to get an excuse for that EOL'ed operating system you're running on because your EOL'ed ND8.x isn't certified on a current OS.