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ODF vs. Notes rich text: Nested lists (was: Any interest in ODF vs. Notes rich text functional differences?)
Mon 10 Jul 2006, 10:19 AM
Tweetby Ben Langhinrichs
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What has been said:
471.1. Richard Schwartz (07/10/2006 08:25 PM)
This reader is interested
471.2. Alan Lepofsky (07/10/2006 08:36 PM)
I'm interested! You taught me something today, I never noticed that you could not indent numbered lists. (shows that i've rarely used one in 12+ years!)
471.3. Sean Burgess (07/10/2006 09:48 PM)
This is definitely something that is going to be on my radar screen as the time of Hannover draws near. It will also be interesting to see what kind of api's will be available and how they will compare to the COM interface we use today with Office.
471.4. Ben Langhinrichs (07/10/2006 10:18 PM)
@Alan - I guess part of my goal is to educate people about Notes rich text as well as about ODF. Glad to hear your learned something (as you are normally the teacher with your blog).
@Rich and Alan - I'll keep posting these as they strike me, but will probably come up with a more concise but more complete list/doc later in the project. Thanks!
471.5. Mark Vincenzes (07/11/2006 05:34 PM)
@Alan - you [b]can[/b] indent numbered lists, you just can't indent a few of the entries (without creating a separate numbering for the indented list).
For even more fun, try this: start a numbered list at 1" indent, add a few entries. Then indent to 2" and add a few entries (the will start numbering again at one). Then go "out" to 1.5" - the entries should start numbering again at 1. Finally, go back to 1" and the entries should continue numbering where the first few at 1" left off.
Now, convert to HTML and make it look just like the client.
471.6. Ben Langhinrichs (07/11/2006 06:35 PM)
Alan - Mark is right, of course. And he isn't kidding about how much fun it is to make it look right in HTML (although Midas does that quite well). As for making it look the same in ODF... that is for the future, perhaps.
Mark - Welcome! Always glad to get your input/feedback/insight.
471.7. Paul Ryan (07/12/2006 03:30 PM)
Thanks for this Ben!
You asked us to report if we were interested in this stuff. I am. That said, honestly, I didn't find this topic particularly interesting, except to note that ODF consists entirely of XML, something that I hadn't quite registered before. Therefore, and as your example clearly demonstrates, ODF files are going to be very fat compared with proprietary formats like Notes rich-text or Microsoft formats.
Digressive musing...what XML really needs is a widely-used, maybe even compulsory, compression component to combat the bloat problem. Maybe there is something like that out there, and I'm just not aware of it. Hmm...