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XML and Notes - Non-relational relations
Mon 2 Jun 2003, 01:46 PM
It has been interesting read some of Simon St. Laurent's blogs on XML, such as XML is not Aritotelean and Different colored glasses, since many of them could have been written about Lotus Notes and its non-relational way of storing data that is loosely, but not tightly related.  Simon quotes Elliotte Rusty Harold from Bill Venners' article What's wrong with XML API's?
Elliotte Rusty Harold: "What I've just described is essentially seeing the world through database colored glasses—everything's a table. And yes you could probably figure a way to stuff most anything that can be represented in a computer into a table, but some things fit better than other things. A different version of the same problem is saying well everything's an object, and we can model everything as objects. And that's equally flawed, for different reasons. " link
 
I think that we should look to the on-going debates about XML with interest, as they share a lot in common with the debates about Notes and its non-relational store.  While there is nothing wrong with relational databases, they have their place and looser collections of data around combinations of schemas and non-schemas have their place as well.  Maybe we should be participating in and learning from and teaching to those in the XML world.

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What real support is all about!
Mon 2 Jun 2003, 07:59 AM
Hynek Kobelka just posted a series of lists showing statistics on the Gold forums (Notes 4&5 forum and Notes 6 forum) since 1999.  Take a look at All Users/All years, and note that Julie Kadashevich is 4th on this list, Matt Chant is 5th, and other IBM/Loti are very high up as well.  Hans Haraldsen is 21st, Andre Guirard is 25th and so on.  Those four alone have posted 11263 posts on support forums where they are not paid to provide support.  That is dedication!
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Btw, I am both #27 and #32, because I started posting more through Notes in recent years, and my posts from my Notes client show as Ben Langhinrichs while my posts from a web browser show as Benjamin Langhinrichs.  Combined, I would probably be #12, unless there are others whose numbers are similarly split.

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